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Problem mit Rsat2 Ex 11 Mai 2019 01:42 #7

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Knut schrieb: Hi wfield0455
I have set the Sat to PPM positive and the E1 input of the Assist to PPM input. There is no function possible. The PPM signal is not evaluated at the Assist.
On the test with another R12 (no Assist),> Sat1 input and Rsat > PPM positive was successful.
Which software version does your Assist have?
Does your Assist work with the settings PPM? Or only with EX bus setting?



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I just now configured a model memory for dual path and bound an Assist 12 running V1.10 firmware as the Primary and an R5L as the secondary (We can't get Rsats in the US). I used device explore to configure the R5l for PPM output which told me it outputs PPM Positive on Y5 (channel 5). This was interesting sine the label on the R5L has a port labeled PPM and it was NOT port 5. Since the actual firmware said it was using port 5 for PPM output I connected one end of a male to male extension to port 5 of the R5La and the other to port E1 of the Assist. Again, using device explorer I used Configuration-> output pin to set port E1 as PPM Input.
I connected a servo to port 1 of the Assist, power cycled everything and the servo worked properly with both RF sections transmitter, I then used Advanced Wireless function key F1 to Disable the primary RF section and the servo continued to operate properly with the Primary RF section disabled. I then used device explorer to set port E1 or the Assist back to Jetibox/Telemetry
and again disabled the primary RF section to verify that the servo now does not work properly when the Primary RF section is disabled. IT think this experiment should prove that dual path can be used successfully with a secondary receiver connected to the Primary receiver (Assist) via a PPM link.

Some things to try.
1) Rebind both receivers.
1a - Put a bind plug in the Assist EXT port and with no secondary receiver or servos connected power up the Assist and in the transmitter Advanced Wireless setting menu, select dual path and press the Bind Primary receiver button. The Assist MUST be the Primary receiver, if you accidentally bound the Rsat2 as the Primary it will not work properly. Once binding is complete, Accept the Assist as Rx1 and remove the bind plug.
1b- Disconnect the Assist and insert the bind plug into the secondary receiver (Rstat) EXT port and bind it using The Wireless setting menu and pressing bind secondary receiver. Again make sure the Assist is not powered on during this. Once binding of the secondary is complete accept as Rx2 and remove bind plug.

2 Use device explorer Assist, Config, outpin to set E1 as PPM Input.
3 Use device explorer to set the Rsat to PPM Positive output. Take note of the port reported as the PPM port by device explorer, sometime the label is wrong as it may have changed because it a previous firmware upgrade. Not sure if this is even possible with Rsat as I've never owned one but my other receivers had the labels PPM marking become invalid on some receiver following upgrade to V3.24 (I think) firmware. Use the port indicated by device explorer NOT the label.
4 Connect a male to male connect between Assist E1 and Rsat PPM output port.
5) If possible connect a servo to the servo port of the secondary receiver and verify it works, this indicates the secondary is bound correctly and is receiving RF. If you want you can verify that disabling the secondary RF section causes it to stop working.
5) Move the servo to the Primary receiver and verify it works. If it does ,verify it continues to work with the Primary RF section is disabled using Wireless settings function key F1.
6) One other thing, by default Jeti receivers put out the first 8 channel ONLY, You have the option of telling it to output 12 channel PPM and set the output period to something like 28 (12*2)+4ms inter frame gap. If you don;t change the number of bits to match the Primary receiver ports high than 8 won't work with the primary RF disabled.

I realize you probably know all this stuff but since you don't seem to be able to get this working I thought I would provide as much step by step detail as I could and also anything I could think of that may cause problems.

Again I'm running V1.10 on the Assist, so if you are running the older firmware, perhaps that is the problem.

In any event, I just now configured an Assist with a secondary receiver and it works perfectly.
Good luck.

Wayne
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Problem mit Rsat2 Ex 11 Mai 2019 10:57 #8

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Hi wfield0455
Thank you for the extensive explanations.
I have already done a lot of this.
The Assist does not work on E1 in PPM mode. Firmware: 1.10.
The Sat works however on port 8 / E2, in the PPM input mode. I also configured this port on PPM input today to test this.
I think the Assist has only one problem on Port E1 with PPM input.
I will contact Jeti.
Maybe it's just a software problem again.

with best regards
Knut

Evertuell könńte das mal jemand anderes probieren, ob ein Sat an E1 im PPM Modus funktiomiert?
wfield0455 benutzt ja einen R5, wobei ich da Ausgangsseitig im Unterschied zum Sat keine Unterschied sehe.
Beide übertragen nur das PPM Signal.
Jetzt könnte ich natürlich einfach den E2, an welchem der Sat funktioniret, nutzen, allerdings fehlt mir dann ein Servokanal.

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Problem mit Rsat2 Ex 13 Mai 2019 23:38 #9

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Knut schrieb: Hi wfield0455
Thank you for the extensive explanations.
I have already done a lot of this.
The Assist does not work on E1 in PPM mode. Firmware: 1.10.
The Sat works however on port 8 / E2, in the PPM input mode. I also configured this port on PPM input today to test this.
I think the Assist has only one problem on Port E1 with PPM input.
I will contact Jeti.
Maybe it's just a software problem again.

with best regards
Knut

Evertuell könńte das mal jemand anderes probieren, ob ein Sat an E1 im PPM Modus funktiomiert?
wfield0455 benutzt ja einen R5, wobei ich da Ausgangsseitig im Unterschied zum Sat keine Unterschied sehe.
Beide übertragen nur das PPM Signal.
Jetzt könnte ich natürlich einfach den E2, an welchem der Sat funktioniret, nutzen, allerdings fehlt mir dann ein Servokanal.

Danke
Knut


What firmware do you have on the Rsat2 ? My R5 indicates it is running V3.25

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Problem mit Rsat2 Ex 14 Mai 2019 09:31 #10

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Hi wfield0455
Here's the original answer from Jeti to my question:
we are apologize, you didn't do anything wrong. We know about this issue and we will fix it in the next update (v1.11). Also, please don't set PPM in Rsat2 to 16CH but only 12CH. In the next update will already be backup via EX-bus. We'll release it in about a month.
It's just a problem on Port E1. I thought so, because the satellite works on port E2 / 8.
Nice to know, shame about the time.
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Problem mit Rsat2 Ex 15 Mai 2019 00:44 #11

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Knut schrieb: Hi wfield0455
Here's the original answer from Jeti to my question:


we are apologize, you didn't do anything wrong. We know about this issue and we will fix it in the next update (v1.11). Also, please don't set PPM in Rsat2 to 16CH but only 12CH. In the next update will already be backup via EX-bus. We'll release it in about a month.
It's just a problem on Port E1. I thought so, because the satellite works on port E2 / 8.
Nice to know, shame about the time.
With best Regards

Knut


Did you actually set the Rsat2 to send 16 bit PPM ? If so that is the difference between what you and I did, I left it as 8 bit PPM which apparently works, at least it works perfectly for me with an R5 on E1. Based on Jeti's reply it seems that 12 bit PPM would work too, simply not 16 bit. Their code probably just doesn't like a PPM stream longer than the number of receiver channels.
Since I was using an REX12 Assist there was no reason to send more than 12 channels. I forget are you using the REX Assist with a CB200 or something that supports more than 12 channels ?

In any event glad you understand what is happening now..

Still, once they add Ex Bus support forr connecting secondary receiver, PPM will probably never be used again.

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Problem mit Rsat2 Ex 15 Mai 2019 19:23 #12

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Hi wfield0455
I have set the Sat on 8/12 channels PPM and he is not working on the PPM input of the Assist. At channel 8 / E2 he works perfectly, but only about 10 minutes long.
Does your assist work on E1 for more than 10 minutes?
EX of the sat I do not want to use. A Vario is connected to the EX port.

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